Episode 27: "NO TEA, NO SHADE" feat. Purelink *FULL EP ON PATREON*

You're listening to the free version of Clout Farm. For the full episode, sub the Patreon geezer. Are donuts big in the UK? No. He pinched my cheeks, slapped my bountiful ass. Yes, it was so sick. We just watched this John Cena movie. That's got me chalky. He's in a new chat like us. I don't think I'm going to make it. You're just eating raw bread. Me and my sister were on acid. Sorry, mom. Whoa. Chortle. Chortle. That I remember chortle. Was it yummy? Fit Dad confirmed. And some undercover cop came up and handcuffed me. Was kissing boy. Man, that's a crazy allegation. I'd like to hang out with Roger from American Dad. We turned Bushwick into Bushwoke. Wow! Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum I thought we should all say this. At the same time, one, two, three, one. $10. Are we rolling right now? Yeah. Cloud Farm episode 24 with Glambian boy band, Pure Link. 24 is for Kobe, shouts out. Rest in peace. Oh, wait, what happened to him? Oh, you know, Kobe. Are you serious? Yeah, exactly. Just trying to happen. Oh, that's really unfortunate. I'm so sorry. He was really good at basketball. Yeah, he was all right. How are you guys feeling? How is the Glambian super boy band group feeling on this Friday evening? Not too much. We love Bushwick. Happy to be here. Shout out Bushwick. Happy to be here, yeah. Feels natural, feels natural. Can you guys, you guys ever... Buzzband and Brooklyn, come on. Do you guys ever harmonize?

No. You guys are so melodious. I like it. Do you guys want to give us a quick one-by-one intro? This is Ben Paulson, a.k.a. Kindtree. Akeem Asani, a.k.a. Amelia. My name is Tommy. Pazlowski. Tommy Pazlowski. Tommy the guy. A.k.a. Concave Reflection. How was last night for you guys? Last night was fun. How did you guys enjoy it? It was so overwhelming. Damn movie. Damn movie? It was a damn movie. I'm glad I stayed out late. Honestly, the best DJ set I ever heard where the USB got unplugged like three times. Dude, we were being so uncomfortable. Oh, that's good. Is that why it would fade out? It somehow worked because, yeah, it like got knocked off and then Ian just started chanting Chanel beats, Chanel beats, Chanel. Ian is... Such a natural of that. I'm so glad. He has, like, superhuman riz in it. Man, is this guy you're talking about? A man by the name of Ian Kim Judd. Wait, something tells me you might have something of a notable origin story there. Yeah, so interestingly enough, I met Ian in 2014. We didn't actually meet, but we, you know, came face-to-face for the first time. He was working at a record store, and I was visiting said record store. That was my first time in Brooklyn. And my old band was on tour. And we had a Brooklyn stop. And this was actually the same day that Robin Williams passed away. I'll never forget that. No, we were getting set up for our show. Wait, he's gone too? He's gone too. I know. Who's still here? But... I was obsessed with Castro Tracks because I loved, like, you know, Beach Fossils, Mac DeMarco, Dive, you know, all that good stuff. And so I was so excited to finally go to Brooklyn for the first time and visit the Castro Tracks store. And Ian was working the counter at that time. And, you know, he has a memorable face, I would say. Distinct. Distinct, yeah. Large surface area. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm allowed to say that. I also have a big asset.

Yeah, it looks good. He's got like a Mount Rushmore type head. Yeah, for sure. He's definitely up there with Robin Williams and Kobe. One of the founding fathers. But eventually, I re-met him at Sustain Release in 2021, and we connected the dots finally of him being at... capture tracks like working for capture tracks and being at the record store and we'll be in there for the first time in 2014 because I had bought a shirt and my best friend Eden had bought my bloody Ballantyne record that she still has and so interestingly enough Eden has just always been you know just like big bro vibes I didn't know it didn't know it back 10 years ago and now we're besties so it's pretty cool Yeah. I mean, he's definitely, like, he reps really hard. He's been a very staunch supporter and has helped us out in a lot of ways, other than being a good friend as well. So, shouts out, Ian. Shouts out, indeed. It's kind of the same for us. He's really, like, put on for us in a way that we will never, and we don't intend to pay him back for it. He doesn't need that. The band you mentioned, something tells me it might have been called Zoo. Zoo brother. Zoo brother. Zoo brother. Zoo brother. Yeah, so this was a very old, this band I was in in like high school and like early college. We had a very minor like viral hit because it was in, one of our songs was in a Funnier Guy, an old sketch. It's like a hoverboard video. And it has all these celebrities in it, but they use their song. Do you guys know Funny or Die? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm on there every day. And it's always funny. There's no Die. That's great. I didn't know that. Yeah, but we randomly had our song. Can we shut the window? Do you want me to shut it? Yeah, please. That's our one, our minor hit that we had. And my brother...

Um, my twin brother Ahmad was in the band and broke the window. No, you didn't break it. You're good. Yeah, I did actually break it though. Don't worry about it. I feel like we should, I feel like we should, uh, take that anecdote from the top. Take the what from the side? Take that anecdote from the top. The zoo brother? The zoo brother. Yeah. Okay. Let's see. I was talking about Funny or Die video, and they used their song in this clip that it benefited from, like, a bunch of millions of views and stuff. And it has Best Coast. It has, like, a... How much is a bunch of millions? It has, like... Well, so I think the video had been on there for longer, and then it got deleted, but it still has, like, millions of hits. Damn, trust me. And we were, like... And, you know, I don't know if you guys remember, like... It's like the really old, like, indie, like, Tastemaker kind of playlist burp, I think it was. Oh, like B-I-R-P? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, like, they, and, like, we were, like, we had that song on one of their playlists, too, and, like, that was, you know, so, like, internet-wise, like, back in the day, it was, like, getting it around kind of thing. But it was, like, my best friend William Parmas' project, and we were, like, part of, like, the live act and, like, helping. helping him tour and stuff. Homie Eden Aurelius, who is... And Eden Aurelius, yes, who we just did the remix for. Just did a remix for. Yeah, she's my best friend. She was also in the band. Wait, what band is this guy in now? Eden just did a solo release song. Cochlear. Like an index sub-label, Cochlear. Yeah, she just released it, and then we did a remix for her, which was a good time. So it's funny, Eden and I have been friends for a long time, and we've... also just been just moved out to new york together yeah we're roommates as well right now and we live like a 10 minute walk away but she she was in this band and it's like we've been intertwined musically forever which is kind of wild too um but honestly i feel like zoo brother was like it i think i feel like it could have popped off it was definitely a little buzzy but this was my friend's project and they got um

excuse me, Will, was just like, you know, stop the project. You know, I'm going to work on some other music. And we're like, okay, got to work on my own music. And that's how I started getting to DJing and stuff. That's a whole different story. Damn, the bandwagon just crumbled and you had to find your own foot. I did, yeah. I was like, damn, I got to do stuff on my own. I was like, Ableton? Like, what the hell is that? You know, I had to learn that. That was crazy. But here we are. What's the Pure Link origin story? Tommy, do you want to say it? Just like the table explodes. I've just been talking a lot. Me and Ben have known each other since we were kids. So we were already friends. And I met Akeem when he was working at the record store in Chicago. I bought, I don't know, I bought a Visible Cloaks record and we just started hanging out. Like a year or so. It was sick. I had just started working, or I was like a manager at the store finally. and it was like my first time buying records for the store and so i bought a visible close record and he just happened to walk in and buy it one day and i was like oh cool you're buying this record what else do you like you know and then we just started talking and like we exchanged like twitters and like we were like messaging each other twitter yeah not x not x no we don't talk about x um and then we ended up at the same shows and stuff and just and then i finally met ben and then you know we just kind of started hanging out and yeah we kind of did like a three laptop jam in like february of 2020 2019 and then it was like a month later everything happened and then we were like renting a studio space and just like kind of uh felt like a happy coincidence or something yeah it was like our outlet in [redacted address] we could like leave our place and like go to the studio and like there's nothing else to do so we were just always like yeah a lot of music yeah it's like the blessing in disguise maybe um we just had a lot of time to work on it which was um you know it was nice but it was also but it was also just like hanging out with these brothers you know that's what it's all about um it's all just we just happen to make music as we hang out you know that's kind of what it is you know it's a creative milieu it's um yeah exactly you get it

It's been fun, though. It's been fun, though. I feel like it's also rare to meet people who have just very similar tastes and being able to show each other music is just always the most exciting thing and just geeking out about music. It's all just being nerdy bros, really, at the end of the day. Is there something that one of you guys likes musically that the other two... despise yeah uh detail oh i feel like we i feel like we maybe we each have our own yeah we each have our own lane a little bit i mean like i'm into the more like sound arty bullshit that like they don't really subscribe to as much and like... As much, yeah, for sure. But aren't you guys sound arty bullshit? What? We are sound arty bullshit. Well, yeah. Your own way. Yeah. But you should listen to the stuff he's... You should listen to his bullshit. Yeah. Literally. What are we talking? Just like... I don't know, like... Lots of stuff. I don't know. Like... Fucking like European, like... GRM shit, like... GRM Daily? No, no, no. Like, what is it? Shelter Press and bullshit. You know, kind of more like... Like Mark Felsberg and stuff like that. Exactly. Like Boom Cat, Core. I mean, we all... I mean, we all like this shit, but... Yeah. I mean, I love Weezer. They don't like Weezer. I like Weezer a lot, bro. That's crazy. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. We just sang Weezer Acura. We did sing Weezer Acura. Which one? El Scorcha. Had to be. It's so good, obviously. I mean... Kind of killed it. Yeah. What's something that Tommy likes that we don't? Pure Link? Yeah. Classical music? Yeah. Oh, Tommy is the most into classical music, for sure. Well, yeah, I mean, sort of. I guess he could say that. Oh, for sure. I mean, you got the Jell-O? Yeah. Yeah.

You're listening to the free version of Clout Farm for the full episodes of the Patreon Geezer. listening to the free version of cloud farm for the full episodes of the patreon geezer do uh do you guys have or feel like you have much of a relationship to the like like down tempo it'll be in like chicago tradition hefty throw jockey that type of shit i just wonder if you see yourselves as kind of almost part of that lineage i mean we hope so if it still exists cool To, like, be acknowledged in any regard like that. Oh, yeah. And also, like, Cranky is, like, very, like, Chicago. Yep. And it's, like, I feel like it's kind of, like, the things get popular again in, like, the 20-year cycles. Absolutely. Yeah. So I think we're just kind of at that time of, like, the 90s stuff getting cool again. And I feel like there's a little bit – I always bring up Tortoise, kind of post-rock. Mm-hmm. you know, throw it, you know, TNT and we're not like post-Rocky obviously, but like we definitely subscribe to like the Chicago influence of that, I think. Um, and, but it's also cool being in Brooklyn now too, because of like, you know, the, the Illbyant scene back in the, in the nineties and two thousands, that was like, you know, DJ Olive and Brooklyn and all that stuff. And being in Brooklyn now, it's kind of cool. Yeah, shout out DJ Olive. Yeah, it's kind of cool to be on that as well. DJ Olive was in that band, We TM. It was like, they like started Illbian, like here in Brooklyn. Okay. In the 90s. Yeah. All the members just passed away of cancer. Oh, yeah. But they're like the OG three-piece band. Yeah. And like Illbian and Trip Hop and like Ambient and Tub and...

you know, all that kind of stuff. We definitely, like, take it from that book. He has this collab with, like, Kim Gordon, too, which is kind of crazy. Like, he was kind of in the New York scene a little bit back in the day, just, like, doing crazy stuff. But also the Chicago lineage of just, like, you know, house music and dance music in general. I mean, we're all fans of that as well. Definitely all heavily inspired by, like, the Midwest at large. Yeah, we talk about it a lot, too. Like, we were talking about... God earlier, aka WorkOS, from Kansas. He's from Kansas. I was born in Kansas, so, I mean, like, I think I just get a kick out of, like, seeing all these, like, these very cool scenes coming out of Kansas. Right. And then, you know, just combine it. Yeah, exactly. C-. And so there's definitely, like, a really strong bond with that. I feel like the connection of, like, Midwest connection and repping the Midwest. But... Does that include, like, drop-based network and the type of Midwest rave shit from the 90s? Or is that something that's passed you guys by? I think that kind of passed us by. We were just a little too young. It's just more Midwest emo. Yeah, I think we all come from, like... I mean, me and Akeem really come from, like, heavy indie influences. Oh, I mean, like, I thought I was going to be in, like, an indie rock band. Yeah. You know, like, coming to Brooklyn in 2014 with my band and, like... Being like, oh, I'm going to be in like a, I'm going to be a drummer and like an indie rock band when I grew up. It's like kind of like always the, which I kind of am now, you know, in my own little way. So more like drum programming than actual drumming. But it's the indie vibe is, I mean, Chicago indie. I never really actually, I'm not super into like the emo, emo rock. That's something that just never really clicked with me, Midwest vibe. I was definitely into that. Where's Sunny Day Real Estate from? I don't know. California? Oh, and the wind. Okay. I don't know where Sunny Day Real Estate is from. But I like that. I like that shit. See, yeah, that stuff passed me over a little bit. But, like, Captain Jazz is, like, from not too far from where me and Tommy are from, like, the suburbs. Same with, like, Fall Out Boy. Fall Out Boy went to DePaul University, which is where I went to school. Shout out to Fall Out Boy. I mean, I wasn't super into Fall Out Boy, but, like.

They were sick. They were so big in middle school. They had... They got the tracks. Sugar were going down swinging. What's that one Cap'n Jazz song that's like... Boys kissing boys. I literally like... So you listen to that? What's that about? No, like... I literally like one Cap'n Jazz song. Which is? And it's the first one on that anthology record. It's the yellow... I don't know, it's that first song. That one, that yellow record, yeah, for sure. I just like that one song, like, so much, but I don't even listen to the rest of the... Yeah, I remember in high school, Ben was, like, really stoked on Bright Eyes and was, like, sending me... Yeah. I can't do Bright Eyes. I mean, like, yeah, no tea, no shade, but, like, I just... Connor Oberst, I just don't really... No tea, no shade. I don't get it. Is that a cool Bushwick thing to say? Yeah. Hashtag love wins. We wouldn't be here without Bright Eyes. You know, and it's funny because... Yeah, right. That's the episode title. We wouldn't be here without Bright Eyes. And it's, you know, I work in... I work in music distribution and we distribute for... Oh, you're on SongClan? Unfortunately. Yeah, yeah. But, like, we distribute, like, Phoebe Bridgers and this, and, you know, Bright Eyes catalog. And it's fun to be, you know... I never got to Bright Eyes, but it's fun to be in the inside. I'm sure it is. If you like to whimper a lot as an adolescent, it is kind of ideal. See, I'm over that. Gang. My really indie, you know, when I was really deep in my indie phase, it was like Arcade Fire was like my, I feel like my bright eyes. Do you feel like they've aged as well? I think we all liked Arcade Fire. Yeah, of course. You know. Bummer. I mean, but like the suburbs, like rips. It's great. They're Zorro hat. Yeah, I was going to say, Akeem, would you rock the Zorro hat? What is that? No, absolutely not. You know, like the Darkwing Duck? Yeah. Oh, God damn. I remember seeing them on, I saw them on the suburbs tour and the national opened. And, you know, obviously they're wearing all that bullshit. There's like 15 of them on stage. Yeah. All looking.

you know i remember they're like uh what was that french like like filming on the street like the blog something yeah and they're like in the elevator like ripping paper with like 30 people in the elevator that's so that's so funny they're ripping the paper why are they ripping the paper it was like the percussion of it because there's like acapella singing like one of them has a guitar parlor singing we should start doing Yeah. We just go around. Has anyone ever said Epic Wind Butler? New gamer tag. Epic Wind Butler. Oh, shit. Should we take another window pose? The window is falling. I'm sorry. Is this Claw Farm first window? Yeah, yeah. I swear I didn't do anything wrong. It was on the way out. What are they? Yo. Tape it. Smart. Instead of paper, tape it. Yeah, tell me if you could just stand there for the rest of the interview. Got the burp out of the way. Good. Youth Lagoon. Next week, what do I drink? See? Really? I saw Grimes. Youth Lagoon. Youth Lagoon cave. I saw Youth Goon at the Metro. Youth Goon was sick. I saw Youth Goon at the Metro. Youth Goon. Just Youth Goony. Oh, God. Don't. No. Don't put us on the list. But Smart Bar is like, you know. Definitely spend a lot of time. You know, Frankie Knuckles, the DJ there. You know, like. Doesn't it have the booth in the middle of the floor? It does not, I think. No, it's just like, okay. It's kind of normal, but... It's kind of normal vibes. It's a normal style club. But, you know, and, you know, shouts out to Bless Madonna and, you know, repping Chicago, I guess. But, like, beyond that, I'm just like, it's kind of... Shouts out, Bless Madonna. Shouts out. She put Chicago on the band, bro. You just said that.

No tea, no shade. We went to Smart Bar a lot. If we were going to rip on somebody... Damn, no tea, no shade is just the perfect... You can say literally anything. You can say, but it's like, no tea, no shade. I mean, it doesn't... Obviously, I'm not serious about it. You wash your hands a bit. Yeah. Was Colonial Patterns as big a game changer for you guys as it was for my ass? I think we were on the second one a little more at the end. Really? Oh, well, that kind of makes sense. Yeah. The ambient one. What's the full title again? Couldn't tell me. For those who have. For those of you who have never. And also those of you who have. The bit that got left out was Had Sex. For those of you who have plonked. We salute you. How do you know the English slang for sex? We were trying to convince WorkOS that he should just do plonk three. Yeah, like just straight to plonk three. Traits of Long 3. Traits of Long 3. Tommy, care to explain this image? Wow. Holy shit. That's so good. I did do the single ladies dance in high school. Yeah, there was this. There was this. I'll tell it. Akeem, can you hold it up to the camera? Yeah. Thank you. This looks fake. Why are you on my face? Tommy and I went to high school together. Why does that picture just... And we were both in, like, a... It was, like, a senior prom thing where, like, you had, like, Mr. High School or whatever. Like, Mr. CHS was, like, the thing. And it was, like, a... I've never seen this before. Like a boy pageant. Like a teenage boy pageant at our school. You look like Timothee Chalamet. And Tommy did a full rendition of the single ladies music video. Did you still do it? I had background answers. He had background answers. They told me how to do it. Do you still remember? No. Bummer. Definitely not. You look like Timothee Chalamet in the best way possible. Nisa. Also, the beat for that song. I said Nisa. The beat for that song is fucking insane. That's what I meant to say.

All the single ladies. Have you ever just listened to the instrumental? Just the Timbaland instrumental. It's absolutely unreal. It makes... Who doesn't, but... It makes... That beat makes no sense, really. It makes no sense for that to be the pop song of whatever that year was. 2009, something like that? It's such like an anomaly. I feel like it's... I mean, it's because it's an anthem. Of course it is, but the beat itself is like... Incredibly abstract. So weird, I know. I feel like that's something Timbaland's successfully done time and time and time again, is make shit. I'm saying something incredibly obvious. Yeah, no. So we're just going to move on. We're just going to move on. No, no, no. I know what you mean. I know exactly what you mean, though. Because I've been working on this Missy Ally mashup recently. And I've been listening to Get Your Freak On a lot. But just hearing that beat, like Get Your Freak On. Somebody played it last night. Yeah, I played it last night. Yeah. I mean, I forgot what you played it with. It was good. I played like a Cumbia version of it. Yes. It was so sick. But like, even hearing... in that context too like it being able to like kind of blend with like that that could be a track but that beat is just i mean and a lot of those similar beats at that time where he was a big drum and bass head supposedly really that makes so much that's where this weirdness for one of a better phrase came from he has the coolest spread in like a wire magazine i've ever seen it's like him at like this mixing desk just looking like sick as fuck you know i don't know i was like i was working And I just was like reading the wire bag online all day. I know. I mean, yeah. Timbaland is insane. Yeah. Some of the coolest music production. I used to have a USB with just all of his instrumentals on it. I don't have, I don't think I have anymore. I leave all my USBs at shows. Like it's kind of insane. That's a bad one to lose though. That's a bummer. That's fine. Just go back on soul. So I hope, I hope it's a good answer. There's something he does that, I mean, as incredible a producer he is, there's something he does that I find kind of funny, like, bordering on cringe when he, like, he does the little, like, vocal fit. Oh. Yeah. It's funny how he throws himself into a lot of these songs, too. He says, like...

weird things. I feel like it's like Justin Timberlake and him just like have a field day with the... Oh, they were going crazy in the studio. But like... Which NSYNC music video does he like beatbox at the end? JT? Oh, Dirty Pop? Yeah, the end of Dirty Pop is like... It's like a 30 second beatboxing clip of him. It's pretty sick though. What's the goaded Timberland song? Production. I've been really listening to AO Technology lately with 50 Cent and Justin Timberlake, so that's the first thing that popped in. You're partial, though. That counts. I'm partial, yeah. I don't know. But there's so many good ones. I don't know. Nelly Furtado. Yeah, all the Nelly Furtado. Yeah, Promiscuous is crazy. And Say It Right as well. Yeah, yeah. Say It Right. Promiscuous is the next level. You're listening to the free version of Cloud Farm for the full episodes of the Patreon Geyser. Promiscuous, get her under whatever you are. And it's you that I want Remiscuous boy, you already know Yeah, I'm not yours, what you waiting for? Remiscuous girl, you teasing me You know what I want, and I got what you need Remiscuous boy, let's get to the point Cause we all alone, you ready? Roses are red, sun, diamonds are blue For the full episode, sub the Patreon, geezer.