Episode 46: "GOODBYE EAST ROAD" feat. Charlie Osborne & Worldpeace DMT *PREVIEW — FULL EPISODE ON PATREON*

You are listening to the free version of CloudFarm for the full episode sub to Patreon. Me and him, we're from different ancient tribes. Sometimes, I gotta stick with the ancient ways. The old school ways. Hard rock cafe uniforms. Support our troops. I like that your idea of social justice is to support the troops. Did you hang out with Harmony Kareem in a Tokyo green room at a Tuchel show? You don't want to be a white Jamaican. That's a bad look. Speaking from experience. No, for instance. There's fucking posh English guys cutting a boat. You are a fucking snob end. Can I have another red straw? Yeah, you get older, man. Don't worry about that. No one has a key. So everyone does go through the window. Ship skip. Overdose on Viagra. He's putting us on the train in Squaresville, Mona. Viagra Studios kind of have the vibe of like a gay Berlin sauna. Shout outs to Zora. Have you guys ever smoked crack? I'm going to get to radio. I swear on my lap I'm going to be on radio. This is music for people who had their first kiss at Latitude Festival. I really have the giggles right now. I love my parents and if my parents do watch this, I love you all because I feel like I've been very rude. Charlie, is it true that you are currently working in the costume department on the Beatles movie? Yes. How's that going? It's cool. It's like kind of a pilgrimage twice a week to get there. But then... Wait, are they filming it in Watford? It's in Hemel Hampstead. Okay, yeah. Grimage Pilled. Yeah. Angelus as part. Yeah, it's funny because I've never been like in... investor of like the Beatles fandom even though I kind of understand it and I only became really aware to it because of Leo and then I then just kind of got given this job to work on it and obviously Leo and Rowan are like because innately gonna be mega fans of yeah wait Leo like got you into the Beatles no I think Leo made me feel like a bit like

that's their thing i'm like i'm aware like in a nice way i have a superiority complex yeah in a nice way but but it's just funny because seven east road is a bit like woodstock 99 or something and so the fact that i'm working on the beatles said the number whoa you know what happened there yeah yeah yeah no no no no none of the stuff you're talking about No, none of the numbers I just said are correct. You guys will be gone by the time this comes out anyway, right? 69 or whatever the OG was. Yeah, yeah. 99 was more cut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, I know, I know. It's good stuff. But like, I just think it's a funny. I've always worked on feature films in the costumes, but that's been my part-time job. And so I just find it's just a funny sort of synchronicity right now with the way that some of the music around us is sounding. For me to go off to Hamill Hampstead part of the week and work on this four-part long kind of... production but i'm i'm basically like aging and distressing the costumes and yeah it's been it's been cool but there's lots of like ndas yeah yeah there's also elements in your work like obviously the new the new film's called scene one yeah and your book last year find your melody is sort of written in this yeah like almost like screenplay yeah type way yeah like you're definitely interested in the kind of the the the structure of like film making yeah totally i i i keep um that's like that's like the medium that i'm most obsessed with and um it's it's difficult to make a movie it's difficult to even make like a two minute long music video but i'm obsessed with the like start middle end of that production process and um scene one acts as this like

um moving image work and um i go i go through like cycles of being like basically like able to make a video piece just based on the fact of it's like budgeting and like the facilitation of equipment and stuff but it's nice that like in conjunction with starting working on the beatles movie i've also started like making more video stuff again and yeah i feel like it's um there's like yeah there's like a nice like um urgency to keep up that medium because that's my favorite way to work yeah yeah yeah so in working on the movie did you feel like some kind of obligation to like to become acquainted with the Beatles outside of Leo's gatekeeping Well, what's quite nice is so... I mean, you don't like the Beatles. Don't lie. No, but I like the fact that... You wore Rolling Stones. Yeah. I like the fact that it's like a kind of like... It's like in East Road, it's like a ritual thing where I'll be like, it'll be like day three. It'll be like, everyone sit the fuck down. We're listening to Sergeant Pepper. And everyone would just be like, Leo, fuck off. Like, please, like, just fuck off. I know, something that's, like, thrown at your head. Yeah, just like, listen, Revolver, we're doing it now. Everyone's, everyone, everyone. By that point, you have, like, harems on and you're top off. It's, like, it's really, like, a common occurrence where I'm just, like, like, why is Leo DJing right now? Because this is, like, horrible. Yeah, basically. Speaking of the costume department and Leo, Leo, you had your own costume department where you made young women wear skin-coloured leotards to do naked mud wrestling? I had... Wait, what skin colour? Under the influence of alcohol? Yeah, I... Dodging the question. Yeah, I... Politician. I put together a kind of mock opera.

which went down really badly for a lot of people. And there was a degree of kind of wet t-shirt contest combined with kind of Wagner-esque orchestral music. But, you know, I've moved on to tweet indie rock, so it's fine. So it's fine. You know, I let those days behind me. You gave up fascist in my wrestling. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, it was like when I was younger, When I was young, I had a bad relationship with my brother and there was a lot of fighting. He's kind of a tech bro. He's into jiu-jitsu. And so I thought as a way to kind of flush out. That's cool. We should have him on. Well, as a way to kind of flush out those memories, I got him to fight naked with another man. to completion. With like hanging taxi dummy birds as well. Well, I got a bunch of golden eagles. Sort of inspired by the virus studios, perhaps. Well, I... Yeah, yeah, honestly, yeah. But I think people made more of a correlation with Hitler. And it was a messy situation. Wait, so what kind of fighting? Jiu-jitsu. There was a number of fighting going on at the same time. It was kind of like an Olympics. It was like an Olympics scored with brass. So there was jiu-jitsu fighters. There were basketball players. It sounds like a bad trip. There were women not hugely clothed crawling across the floor. Oh. But, you know, yeah, I gave it a go, but I haven't done it since. Sounds kind of lit. Wait, was it like an actual, like how hard were they going? I'm so interested in this fight, in this nude fight. Between my brother and his jiu-jitsu partner. They fought hard. It was essentially, if you think, we created like a square, a square.

space of of like padding you know you would do a jiu-jitsu fight on and surrounding that square were brass players who played these music i wrote while they fought uh honestly a lot of it i'm really proud of but i just i i just i was i was i was reaching for a kind of i i don't think i'm intelligent enough to quite uh to quite tie all the threads together to make it kind of conceptually sound yeah so it was kind of just like it was just shot in the dark so if that was fired partly if that was partly underpinned by your desire for brotherly reconciliation which by the way i think is very noble what would what would be his equivalent Corbin hears every word just trying to talk to me, you know. But you ignore him. But I thought that the fight was a more, was maybe more, it was going to be like a more. more more beneficial way of of flushing through the the the beef but uh we we still don't talk so were you guys not talking at the time and you just pop up in his dms asking him to basically yeah right and he agreed he agreed i think his guilt sort of like uh his guilt um uh uh you know encouraged him to be there it's an emotion we don't manipulate enough yeah yeah and and there was those yeah there was a lot a lot going on but i did do this performance yeah so you i have a question oh i have a series of questions for the both of you and uh this was inspired by um a potentially like offhand remark you made in this hollywood superstar uh interview uh wherein you leo said that you consider yourself to be a hard gun yeah where do you want to like first of all do you want to expound on that remark a little bit like what do you mean um you said that you're a selective hard gun originally when we me and rowan started working together uh yeah once we had um what what was the question in in an interview that i did previously i spoke about the fact that to me well pcmt is can be a kind of a gun for hire whereby like

you know depending on the person who's asking and depending on what the project is i'm kind of happy to facilitate and i feel like i have like i guess it's kind of why you're here now because i asked charnik to do this yeah yeah i i feel like i have like a range of skills whether that's like as an engineer or as a producer or as a facility you know whatever which which maybe can be useful to other people and i'm quite like you know of course like it depends on what it is and who the person is but i'm really uh beyond just the recording i'm writing of the music which is released formally under world pcmt i'm really happy to like um to just to just be of use in any way if if i feel like it's something that's that's worth that that's that's that that i believe in um so if we take if we take that as point departure of the both of you being let's say artistic mercenaries depending on how appealing the project is Let me put a couple potential projects on your plates. Yeah. I have a few. Some of them are specific to one of you and the last one is for both of you. So you tell me whether or not it's appealing and explain your reasoning. Leo, Black Sabbath reunion with you on vocals because Ozzy and Dio dead. No. No. No. I'd bet Charlie doing that though. Charlie, Charlie would be on Charlie. I've already got the surname. Yeah, true. Oh, whoa, you just ate with that. Yeah, no, you're in. No, I would say, I'm sorry, I'm like, I'm wrapped up, but I've got to have a friend. You know? Charlie, Livestrong Armband come back with you as a wrist model. Wait, say it again. Livestrong Armband? Do you know what a Livestrong Armband is? No. i guess you're not saying the like rubber did you when you're in school did you did you never have people who do like charity runs and they'd have a band that says oh shag bands yeah yeah yeah would i do a shag band wait what would you be there would you be the the like uh the wrist model for a new range of shag bands okay

Global campaign. Also shout out to loverboy Cormac on the assist there. My translator. Cormac's like, shag band. And I'm like, oh, okay. In school, did you not do that thing where it was like, if you snap, if someone that you banded had that. You had to snap it on them and then it would be like you want to shag them. But if you snapped a black when you had to shag underwater. Are those those like plastic wristbands? They're like rubbery. Not dads. It would be like support our troops. I don't know if they had them a year ago, my friends. Support our troops type thing. I feel like maybe they hadn't landed in a school yet. Do you know what I mean by those bands that you can buy where it's like support our troops or some shit? It normally has some like social justice. I know the bands you mean. I like that your idea of social justice is support the troops. Dude, you're such an SJ dust. All these woke guys who are a warmonger. But I'm saying it'd be cool much to Charlie Osborne, but it's like a... Yeah, and also, I feel like there was some weird motif. I just remember that because my ex-girlfriend's dad used to have one and it would be like... It was like a support troops one, you know? But it was like one of those... I would say that they have actually done... They have come back in the kind of like scrams, scream all... Yeah. and what i was about to say is that there's also this like motif of like um uh reoccurring like accessories kind of like uh what's the word uh uh like uh what is the word fantasization around the the like accessory of a bangle because we've all just become quite we're not none of us have them right now but like all of us have just become like quite like collectors of bangles so i feel like the the premise of me like modeling some shag bands is just like totally apt actually it's there

It's there. So my intuition was correct. Yeah, I would run it. So basically I've done two of these projects, which is so like the epitome of what I'm up to. I'm like a yes man. I like we will make it work. Yeah. Leo. Yeah. Rowan gets cancelled and you have to replace her on the cover of Baby Morocco's Amour. No fucking way. i mean respect to him but no fucking way he got too cut yeah yeah i'm not cutting up uh charlie uh the wavy garms guy reinvents himself and he's starting a throwback style uk funky duo and he wants you to be the benga to his koki oh um yeah why not i just i have a really funny story about um how like basically in lockdown i got a uber with reuben and basically the guy driving his name was his name on the thing was benga and he played only like really deep cut dubstep in the car and we were just like in the back we were just like freaking out like so starstruck like we'll still never know like we'll still never know but it was like we were we were like we were like shaking our boots at the you know you know benga does like like somerset house art stuff now but he he spent a long time like out the game as well for like mental health reasons so he probably yeah it was lockdown yeah like we all had he needed the bread side hustles yeah um okay leo lil nas x wants to collaborate on a new queer anthem yeah interpolates three six mafias slob on my knob and the song is called slob gaily on my knob no sorry lil nas x you're out on your own bro

You're not getting any of our clout. Charlie, an ant, like an ant. Like an ante or an ant? No, I wouldn't say ant American. I'd say ant. You're talking about the insect. You're talking about the insect. Ant. You know, Ivy's always saying ant. I'm like, what are you saying? Ant? What does she mean? She means aunt, like an auntie. Okay. Right. But I'm just, we're just like not in that. So an ant of insect fame wants to collaborate on the smallest sculpture of all time. It's like big for an ant because of how strong it is relative to its size. So like Zoolander. But by our standards, it's very small. And the sculpture is of a very ornate grain. And what's my role? Like facilitator? No, you're collaborating. It's a very intense one-on-one collaboration. Okay. And how does the physics... Honestly, run it. Fuck it. Is it paid? No, it's speculative, but there is the potential for a bag. It's powered by Zora. Okay. Then yes. Then yes. The Powered by Zora. Shout out to Zora. Charlie Osborne doing the Powered by Zora and Grain Sculpture collaboration. Yeah. I'm so glad we have that on the record. Leo, Ringo and John are resurrected. Yeah. No, Ringo's alive. What am I saying? That was a test. Paul and John are resurrected. Paul is also alive. Wait, who's the one who's not? George. Oh, Jesus Christ. Fucking hell. George and John are resurrected. Yeah, yeah. And the Beatles are reunited. Yeah. And you can replace one of them. Yeah. But you have to kill one of them. To replace them. Precisely. With someone else, yeah. Who do you pick? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Honestly, George is kind of annoying. I would replace George. I feel like your songs are the most George, though. Really? I mean, I do like George, but I just feel like he would have annoying kind of preachy vibes to hang out with. George. Unlike John. Unlike John. Yeah, but John is just like, you know, honestly, me and Ike talk all the time about John and about just trying to reconstruct the experience of hanging out with him.

Because I feel like everyone else, you can kind of get a sense of what it would be like. And I feel like with John, it's this kind of gray area. It's like, what would it really be like? So I would love to experience that. But who would I replace George with? It's yourself. Myself. Okay, yeah, George. I think George. I do like that question. If not you, then who? Oh, no, I'd replace myself. If I was to replace myself, I'd probably replace myself with Paul McCartney. I feel like most of them are to Paul McCartney. So you would kill George. No, no, no, no. Keep George because he's kind of good at guitar. But I would replace Paul because I feel like I can do what Paul does. He's like, he's organized and talented. Okay. I do like the idea of resurrecting one of them, killing them again. Yeah. Wait, who do you think the best Beatle is? John. No, but it's difficult because I really am similar to Paul, you know? I feel like I share many... Damn. I feel like I'm similar to Paul where maybe, like, I don't have the most amount of source, but I kind of make up for that in, like, administrative prowess, you know? You don't think Paul has got source? No, I do think Paul has source, but maybe... But, you know, like, I feel like Paul's merit is a combination of, like, his source and then also, like, the fact that he's, like... He's very, he's very kind of like... This could go on for so long. You know, like, like, like, like John, like John is much more, John is much more like a, like he's like a raw dude, you know, like he turns up late to shit, you know? He turns up late to shit and like he's, John's not going to be doing the emails, you know? Whereas Paul's a combination of the businessman and the musician, which I feel like maybe is more, as much as I wish it wasn't, I wish I was Rora. So you relate on a logistic level? On a logistical level, I relate to Paul. Therefore, I feel like I would be most qualified to replace him. How do you feel, Charlie, with your professional proximity to the Beatles? Well, I like Barry Keegan.

Yeah. And would you still see playing? He plays Ringo. Yeah. Yeah. NBA. So you'd kill Barry Keegan. You'd kill Barry Keegan. No, I think I would just like, I would make sure that they could do like a... Have you seen all the children of the Beatles are teaming up for a collab song? But it's also funny because the drummer of Ringo Stiles' son, I mean, you can't get more of a Nepo baby, but nonetheless, he speaks like a geezer, like a geezer. Surely like any of Lennon's kids are more... Do you know about Sean Lennon? What about him? He's in a collaboration project with the Fat White family. Oh, yeah. He's kind of like ranks as like the coolest of the... yeah but doesn't he wear like trilobies and stuff he does he does i mean i mean i mean relative to the rest of the family yeah but but but but ringo's son who's recently resurfaced as like a public figure is very confusing to watch he's like a geezer he's like he's like a pub geezer Oh, like a Sunny Hall geezer? No, like an Oasis. Like his favourite band, you know, like he wears like Stone Island. Do you like Oasis? No, not really. No. Them like claiming any kind of... them them sort of like self-comparing to the Beatles is like it's such an affront to me it's like I don't like I I I associate the the Oasis with my brother and football and you hate your brother and football yeah but I really have my brother doesn't watch this Charlie Charlie uh you know like I don't want to I don't want to like I don't hate him that much. But there's obviously some trauma that is coming to the surface. So, I mean, speaking of trauma, we're going to talk epigenetic trauma. We can have another hypothetical for Charlie. Okay. Charles Gambino wants you to ghostwrite a sequel to This Is America called This Is E8. Sorry.

We did kind of... We did think about doing that, actually. It's funny. We have a host. We have J-Wild to be the host. Oh, J-Wild's manifesto. Yeah, yeah. We have a friend that would be perfect for that. That's a yes. It's in the works, basically. The kids are all right. Okay, and this is the last ones for both of you. um they are creating a new overground line yeah and you get to choose the route and do the creative direction and name it oh low-key i mean i'm now moving to brixton so i'm just thinking i'm just thinking where would the best place from brixton yeah and i live in brixton to be i would say that it's always the east road It's always like, well, I need a Sergeant Pepper line to get me to work. So I would say from Brixton to Hemel Hampstead. And it's called the Sergeant Pepper line. Yeah. I think it needs to go back to sitting and throwing your cross and then Brixton. You need to come answer this. The Beatles are getting way too much press in this interview. They are. They don't need this. I feel like we should be talking about people who need... You guys are putting the Beatles on. Yeah, I feel like we're putting the Beatles on way too crazy away. They're going to pop off after this. We need to be shouting out people who really deserve... Like the most famous fan. Who deserve... Who like... Who, like, deserve... Yeah, like, really lovely, kind people. Okay, one more Beatles-related question. One more Beatles-related question, and then we'll gas up someone who's not the Beatles. Yeah. You ever see that photo of Yoko and John nude? Yeah, yeah. With a small and big bum? Yeah. A small and big bum. There's a fake one, by the way. Oh, that's the fake one. There's one of John Lennon's dick. It's like... There's a full frontal and there's a full back one. We'll still rock it. He's a lot of hair. No.

He's working a lot of hair, but not a lot of length. No, we have to move away. There was like 18 inches of shaft hidden in his... We have to move away from this. Well, I was just going to... From penises or the Beatles? No, from the Beatles. I'm happy to stay there. Okay, closing Beatles question. Have you ever successfully attained orgasm to the Yoko and John full frontal? No, no, no, no. But I'll try it tonight. All right, let us know. John, honestly, John and Yoko are not that hot a couple. Like, I don't think about their sex. It's gross. I don't know why. He's the best couple ever. Like, hottest couple. I feel like Billy, Bob Thornton, and Angelina Jolie, they were hot. Was that when they were just kind of like being all, like, grossy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it was hot. It was hot. It was hardcore. They would, like, wear vials of each other's blood on their neck. Oh, right. Like the Herman Leach thing. Yeah. Am I saying it right? Herman Nietzsche. Herman Nietzsche. Herman Nietzsche. We're also shouting. We're also really, yeah. Shout out Herman Nietzsche. Shout out Herman Nietzsche. All the great people. Yeah. Yeah. Fake niggas. They do it all for the clout. Always run in their mouth. But they've never been about. Yo. I splashed niggas. Yo. In and out. Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people They move like the groupies, them Sending shots or snap But in real life don't use this gang You know who likes special entertainment like that?