Episode 48: "DJ!" feat. DJ LUCAS *PREVIEW — FULL EPISODE ON PATREON*
We entered the home of and interacted with Western Mass's favourite son, one DJ Lucas. INSANELY LYRICAL chop-up action within.We speak of: stanning outsider art, next-gen optimism, being an early footwork head, ‘hyperpop Appalachians’, opening for The Fray and Jonathan Richman, Why?, L. Ron Hubbard, hitting the Harry Potter premiere, Dark World’s punk origins, Odd Future impact, Lil B crossover, being a dirty hipster, art rap vs. Based freestyling, going on No Jumper, linking Andrew Callaghan, Christ Dillinger, MDE, as well as and including more.Full ep: patreon.com/cloutfarmPatreon: CloutFarmIG: @cloutfarmpod
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For the full episode, sub to Patriot on Geezer. Swear down. Bosh. You know, I grew up at a barstool when I was a little kid and fucking talking to random people that were walking in. It's just like, that's how I look at life. CloudFarm. You are listening to the free version of CloudFarm. When you do it from the heart, it's the most local thing you could do. Like, I was wearing fake Ray-Bans, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was really a hipster. Like, I was... My brother's Weird Dane because of Weird Al. Yeah, like, we're DJ Nate and Weird Al, bro. Bro, like, you guys are putting touch microphones on fucking milk cartons, you know what I'm saying? Like, and you want us to respect it, so it's like, I will, because I'm 13, and I want to be around, and I want a cigarette. I like outsider art. Find a way to be able to live as an artist, rather than having to tap out and, you know, do the 9 to 5. And my dad told me... Don't make a band make us another band when our band broke up to make us the bosom of the Western Mass alternative schooling. Are you not impressed that we know that? Well, I am impressed. I don't know how y'all knew that. I can relate to these kids. They're talking about butt sex. Elevator pitch. Why should we care? Motherfuckers already cared. That's why you should care. Dom, I believe you had a question relating to media. You went to the premiere of the first Harry Potter movie, correct? Well, not the premiere, right? Not the premiere of like where everyone was like, ah, but like the screen. Are you not impressed that we know that? Huh? Are you not impressed that we know that? That you guys already know? Yeah. Well, I am impressed. I don't know how y'all knew that. Perfect.
Yeah, I went to the screener. That shit was lit. Not much to it. I was saying my mom, my mom worked in film, so we'd get invites to little shit. You know, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. They're like the next movie, like Hero. There's another movie that guy named me, like Hero. Jaleigh, yeah, yeah. I don't know if it was Jaleigh. Maybe, yeah. Hangley. Hangley, yeah. Yeah, see, she knows. She, like we had that movie in like a DVD that looked like a bootleg. You know what I mean? Growing up, like we got things in the mail, you know, I got, I got. I'm going to shout my mom out. We got some John Waters fucking Christmas ornaments. You know, we're on the John Waters Christmas list for fucking the letters. My mom's a goat. My mom's super a goat in the booking shit. Shout out my mom, so. Do you want to go off on Potter, on the Potterverse? But just as a guess, I imagine maybe you were more ginger when you were younger. Perhaps you shared an affinity with Ron Maitland. It's true, it's true. It's true. The son did something to my hair. But yeah, I was more ginger, so I really definitely connect with Ron. And he had the lady, man. He had Hermione. Potter had Hermione before or after? Near the end, him and Hermione begin to think about perhaps she'd be better off with him than Ron. Yeah, that's dark. But that's real. That's real. That sounds like, yeah, I'm Ron. Hell yeah. I think canonically, actually, Harry wound up with Ginny Weasley. Okay, that's what it is. Is she ginger too, though? I connect with her too. I connect with her too. Famously. Famously. Yeah, we're real deep. film buffs and literature heads. Sounds like my girlfriend might be more. She's quick to the... Yeah, yeah. Okay, she has her area of expertise. It's true. I like Sirius Black. He was real cool. He was like a fucking heroin dealer. He was fire. Are you a big reader? No. Were you at any point? No. I just think that the authors are cool. Uh, yeah, I just think they're cool, bruh. I don't know. I just think reality's cool. And so that's what's here, man. Like you, you go downtown Amherst, you're going to see like stuff about Emily Dickinson and Robert Frost and Emily Dickinson's grave is in the graveyard where everyone used to go and meet to fight. You feel me? Like after the high school, like, it's just like, it's like literally right there. Like, like these are like, you know, the high school's right there and the graveyard's right there. And when kids were like, we're going to fight and you go to the graveyard or some shit like.
So it's just like ingrained into our culture in a funny way, just like anywhere is, right? Like in Elizabeth, where Papa and Subject are, right on the corner over near their area, L. Ron Hubbard Park. It's just a random corner. I'm like, why is this that? I look on the, what the fuck? They're like, yeah, isn't he from Jersey? I think he's from there. Yeah, I mean, I have no idea. Is he from there? No, but that's where the first, his first church was in Elizabeth. Yeah, his first church is in Elizabeth. I was going to say that. Sorry, sorry, we got, we got. Joe Rogan over here, side info. Got to mic her up. Were you, like, I can imagine, like, early days of Dark World, Odd Future, must have been pretty large. Ooh, I like that you said Odd Future, because that's exactly what it was. It was just Odd Future influence. So we were all punk kids and all different kinds of kids, you know, and I had these bands young, very young. So when I had these bands, We did the Jonathan Richman show. Jonathan Richman was like, you guys were cool. I'm like, hell yeah. But I'm like mad because I walked off stage that night. I'll put it on the YouTube so you guys can see. I walked off stage and my brother had to play the last song with my dad. And my dad's band, you know, my dad's friends, they were all the band. And so when that happened, I was in another kid band called Bullseye that turned into Who Shot Hollywood. And we were relatively popular. We opened up for the Fray. We opened up for Ted Leo and the Pharmacists. We opened up for the Fleshtones, which is a great Boston band. We opened up for all sorts of shit. Other stuff too. I can't really remember other stuff for the second album. British Sea Power. Omaha, Nebraska. We were doing shit young. We're in Omaha, Nebraska. We did South by Southwest when I was in ninth grade. Tokyo Police Club. Wow. It was lit. And then, so I was known about town as like a music kid because my dad was this Boston booker. We moved to Western Mass and I was in this band. So then, boom. We do South by Southwest. Then I go to this high school PVPA. That's where I meet a lot of people who...
were like, that's where like fucking Morimoto gods. We all went to that high school together. Jumpy. So that was like a place where everyone met, but it was really this camp called Dasak. That's where a lot, because that's where a lot of different towns could come together. So you got Noah, who was the drummer, show me the body. They're in their early days. You got everyone went to these camps and this and that. So we were all coming together as artists kids, but we were all regular ass kids. Most of these kids, parents weren't artists. They were just. arty ass kids from honestly i i blame the hippie movement you know what i mean it was just dope there were grateful dead kids parents and this and that it was it was lit it was awesome honestly it was a great way to grow up so once odd future came around it was like a new way to demonstrate the punk scene i would say but we kind of we were like after hardcore and hardcore was like dying right when we were turning like 13 14 it wasn't dying i know it was around forever people hate that i said that but the western mass connecticut hardcore scene that stayed around forever It was so big that it enveloped everything. Like Orchid and stuff was from Amherst. You know what I'm saying? But then now there's hardcore again. But when we were out, it was noise music from Hampshire College. And it was jam bands and reggae. Right. And not even really punk. More reggae and hip-hop inspired mixing of things. and this band called Rubble Bucket, and it was cool still. It was very good live music. It all sounds like body music. It's things that you feel that have these very committed subcultures. It's a very psychedelic area, you know? So a lot of people are, you know, and that's EDM eventually too had, you know, but we were more of a jam band reggae area than EDM area. People love EDM out here, but the festivals that happen out here are more in that vein. So then when Odd Future came out, it felt... I felt like, wow, I relate to this, right? Because rap before that was more gangster rap too, or like really like nerdy or something. So this just felt like really fucking relatable. But before Odd Future, I liked like Annie Conn Records. Like I liked Weird Rap. Right. I liked Aesop Rock. Yeah. And I liked 50 Cent and I liked Eminem a little bit. Did you ever listen to that band Y? Of course. See, like that's the kind of stuff we liked. Like my brother loved Yoni Wolf and Y. Were you into Cloud Nothing as well?
Cloud Nothings. Do you remember those guys? That name is so familiar. They were on Anticon as well. I listened to the Anticon sampler, so I listened to all of them, but I just listened to one song. They had like that guy, Odd Not Sam. Back in the day when you couldn't just like, isn't Cloud Dead? Sorry, that's it. Ignore me. Cloud Dead. Yeah, that's it. Cloud Nothings is a band. Yeah, I'm talking about Cloud Dead. Scratch that. Yeah, that had Odd Not Sam. I remember hearing that was the only kind of weird rap I was particularly aware of before Odd Future. So there was so much music culture going on, and I was just a little bit early to the punch because my dad, I would say. But everyone was, you know, by fucking 14, 13, there was mad kids. So Dark World was just an explosion out of that scene in general. So many kids. And then I had already been in these bands. I was already known a little bit. And we would play with older high school bands. I'd be in ninth grade and the seniors would be opening up for us. And it was just, it was, it was a lit era. So we kind of brought in the energy and it was really my dad fostering a lot of the energy. You know what I'm saying? My dad was fucking Ben Baller. You know what I mean? You see the LeVar Ball dad. My dad was that for music. I don't know if you, yeah, yeah. LeVar Ball, the basketball players, the dad who fucking just lost his foot. He's been going viral. No, I'm not familiar with this. Shout out LeVar Ball. He's so cool. But he's like, my dad, he wasn't that. My dad wasn't like, my dad would always be like, I don't want to be the Jonas Brothers dad. Swerve in that corner. Swerve in that corner. Whoa. It's like the viral song for the NBA player. Shout out dad dismemberment. Yeah. I might swerve in that corner. Whoa. But regardless, my dad was the man, bro. My dad told me, don't make a band. Make another band. When our band broke up, he said make a scene. Oh, because I was in another band called Whirl. That was very popular, too. I forgot. Whirl was a sick name. Whirl, and then we were called Worms because we had to change our name. Wait, Whirl. Whirl was a famous band on the West Coast. You were in Whirl?
And the East Coast Whirl. Oh, okay. There's two Whirls. Got you. But we were both doing our thing. And then Whirl, they became Wurr. And they got really popular. And Whirl, we became Worms. And we just did our thing. We were locally just fun being a band in the scene. So I was very much in the scene, like in the punk scene. And then Dark World was a little bit of a splintering off of the traditional Western mass scene. So people kind of were, like you were asked earlier, like were they for it? Were they against it? They were for it because it was a very, it's a very supportive area up here. You can have literally, you can just. fucking it's noise music so the threshold is very high right you have to be able to accept all sorts of stuff you look like an asshole if you're like this isn't music it's like bro like you guys are putting touch microphones on fucking milk cartons you know what I'm saying like we and you want us to respect it so it's like I will because I'm 13 and I want to be around I want a cigarette but like you know I'm saying like I'm not I just know this is okay you know but I also have a dad at home who likes Neil Young and Velvet Underground all that so he's like noise is cool but like on heroin by Velvet Underground like or by Lou Reed. Like I'm not trying to hear that shit on just the noise. So my dad was cool, but he saw noise as a transitional thing. I love my dad. You can tell, like I really love my dad because I see myself as him as far as the, the music thing. So my dad is like a music guy. He wanted to do what I'm doing and he did what I'm doing, but he wanted to, you know what I mean? I'm this continuation of this madness. He taught me all this. That's what I'm saying. That's what comes down to that. I can't fail. Cause it's like, that's where it gets deeper. It's not just about, it's just, it's not just for my parents, but it's for, Just the journey. It's for the podcast club. The way you got set up is just fucked up. It's all I know. Some people's parents are like, oh, I'm going to eventually do the hometown job. You know, my parents fucking, my dad was on the road playing in bands and just kind of taught us that. I read somewhere that you went to school with a lot of people who had like cult affiliations. Mm-hmm. Expand.
I think I probably said my story or something, like something dumb, like the motherfuckers from the cults. So like Western mass has just always been an off the beaten trail type of area. You feel me? It's always been like, I'm trying to think of the right, the most polite way to say everything where I was like, because like, it's not cult is like, has a negative connotation, but like, it's a lot of communities out here that were like, there was Christian cults from way back in the day. So I think that, the area had been fostered for things like this for the free love movement to have a bunch of different culty type but it's not cults there's also a lot of co-housing and housing communities so places like the serious community is a place in the woods that is like a big weird interesting looking building that uh probably a group of families live at and like you know i've had friends who grew up in co-housings and not like co-housing where it's like like where you guys you might all eat together at certain nights and you know what i mean and there's different there's big mail room and So it's not totally isolated at all. You're going to the public high school. You know what I'm saying? But some of these kids, historically, were going to hippie private schools in the woods, like I went to as well. Some of them, like I went to the Academy of Charlemont, which had some hippie energy and had some non-hippie energy, but it clearly had come from the bezel or whatever the word, the bosom of the Western mass. um alternative schooling so there's some schools that are like no grades like hampshire college even and etc it was just a very interesting area with that that certain cities in america like maybe oregon have stuff like that or maybe asheville north carolina but uh they're more you know it sounds like a commitment to alternative living as opposed to a cult it's about trying different models of how people can live together waldorf schools where you're around animals um and you have the same teacher for like many grades yep uh
Shit like that. So I went to performing arts high schools. I went to a self-directed learning school when I dropped out of high school. That was just like a place that kids who were ready to be done with high school but didn't have anywhere to go went. So it was like anywhere from like kids who had like really horrible houses to kids like me who were just kind of like shit bags or like, I'm dropping out of high school. Gotta go to a self-directed school. Man, I have no idea. I went there for like a month and just like, he pointed me. It was great if you didn't have a lot of guidance. I had a lot of guidance on my parents at home. You know, I just was scared to talk to them about dropping out of high school. I dropped out of high school without barely talking to them. I just kind of dropped out at 16. I mean, you can legally do it. So, you know, once I had a plan, like, I'm going to go to this little self-directed learning school. Little did I know, I think it costs like a thousand bucks. So I go to the thing and then my parents are like, oh, this costs like a thousand bucks. I'm like, yeah, sorry. Yeah, but I think it made my mom happy. She wanted me to be in school. My mom went to college. My mom was... You know what I'm saying? And I ended up going to college, even though I dropped out of high school. But I just went for a year. Community college. Fake niggas. They do it all for the clout. Always running their mouth. But they've never been about. I splashed niggas in and out. Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people Clout is killing our people They move like the groupies, them Sending shots or snap But in real life don't use this gang
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